UTOPIA fiber upgrade

Eric Olsen falconv at gmail.com
Tue Jun 7 22:42:46 MDT 2016

Yes, I appreciate XMission. They've been great.

Here's how I understand it, we in UTOPIA have one of four options (five if
you're a "Legacy" customer as I am): [Lease option] pay $30/mo to lease
UTOPIA's service - I assume this is to lease the hardware and their
"infrastructure fee"; [own options] pay $300 down, $30/mo (to the city, not
UTOPIA?) for 10 years, pay nothing after that I presume?; pay nothing down,
$25/mo for 20 years; pay $2750 down, $0/mo for 0 years; [Legacy option]
continue to pay $15/mo "Infrastructure fee", continue to own legacy
hardware limited to 100Mbps. (reference http://www.utopianet.org/faq/ #What
does UTOPIA cost?) I'm unclear whether those "own" options are completely
free (other than paying the ISP, ie XMission in our case), or if they still
have to pay $15/mo "infrastructure fee" as well, but I'm fairly certain
after shelling out $2750 they're set for life... or the life of the
infrastructure, until new lines need to be run to get 1Tbps ;)

On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Richard Esplin <richard-lists at esplins.org>

> UTOPIA and XMission have both changed their rates since I started
> subscribing years ago, and my plan didn't get upgraded. When XMission
> emailed me about the new 250Mbps plan, I discovered that it would actually
> lowered my monthly bill by $5/month. XMission then gave me a credit for the
> time that they were over charging me. Thanks XMission!
> My bill doesn't claim to have any sort of equipment rental, just the
> $30/month UTOPIA infrastructure fee.
> And my actual speeds are closer to 300Mbps.
> I'm curious to hear if you really need to rent your modem. That would be
> sad.
> On Tuesday, June 07, 2016 18:04:33 Eric Olsen wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 6:00 PM, Charles Curley <
> > charlescurley at charlescurley.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 7 Jun 2016 17:37:23 -0600
> > > Eric Olsen <falconv at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > UTOPIA has upgraded their base speed to 250Mbps, which is beyond the
> > > > capability of my old Allied Telesis modem. They are offering to
> > > > upgrade me if I sign away my soul for an additional $15/month.
> > >
> > > I would ask myself: do I really need the increase in speed for $180 per
> > > year? I now have fibre optics into my office, and haven't got around to
> > > increasing the speed here.
> > >
> >
> > There's the thing though, at this point the answer to that specific
> > question is "not yet" - but that wasn't the question. The question was,
> can
> > I get the speed for a one-time cost of $200 (hardware for $150,
> > installation for $50).

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